Fios and Firefox and IE speed tips?

Discussion in 'Smartphones, Computers, Gaming and Networking' started by Max Yokell, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. Max Yokell

    Max Yokell Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster

    Ok I have Fios now at home and when I use FireFox to do speed tests, I am getting results that are less then stellar. In the range of 5Mb down and 768K up which to me is nearly what I get from DSL in the office.

    Now if I use IE, and speed test in the same place I get closer to 10 MB down and actually get about 5MB up.

    This still isn't the speeds I expected on a 20/5 plan and I am guessing that maybe, perhaps there needs to be some PC tweaking at least to get Firefox up to IE speed and maybe some tweaking to get them to even higher speeds.


    Any tips out there?

    MAx
     
  2. Alfer

    Alfer New Member

    Have you gone to PCPitsop.com and run their tests??..usually they can help with tweaks like this etc.
     
  3. cjd

    cjd New Member

    That makes no sense at all that a browser would make a difference. The test might be flawed or otherwise do something causing reporting difference, but that's a test flaw regardless.

    What speed tests are you using? I usually use speakeasy.net

    C

    edit: It is also possible that MS has started throttling browsers that aren't its own.
     
  4. Max Yokell

    Max Yokell Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster

    I was using Speakeasy.net and speedtest.net

    The results are pretty much the same in both. If I use Firefox the results are much lower and similar at both sites and with IE both are higher and similar between both sites.

    The huge difference seems to be on the upload side though Download is still faster. Upload in firefox is in the 700K range and in IE is near the 5 MB.

    Max
     
  5. AndrewM

    AndrewM New Member

    Well if you're doing the transfer through the browser then the browser itself would make all the difference in the world. Granted a browser should only add minimal overhead to actual transfer speeds, so maybe it's a bug?

    All of those speed test sites are flawed as they don't account for any of a dozen or so variables.
     
  6. cjd

    cjd New Member

    Eh. Way too much difference in this case - something is throttling, or the tests are just very very inconsistent and happen to line up with browser.

    Most of these tests use file transfer into buffer, a very very basic and commonly supported technique.

    The question is *where* does the problem lie. It could browser sniff and intentionally add timeout or something. It could be OS layer problems. Firewall introduced problems. So very many places.

    As a curiousity, I ran these tests.

    speedtest.net:

    IE6 - download: 49460kb/s, upload 7058kb/s
    Ffx2 - download: 22294kb/s, upload 13032kb/s

    Speakeasy.net
    IE6 - download: 85176kb/s, upload 5865kb/s
    Ffx2 - download: 29180kb/s, upload 10508kb/s

    So, this has me curious. I believe IE6 may not be reporting accurately (I am basing this on knowing how big a pipe I'm sitting on right now). I'll report back. My first guess is it's prefetching before it's actually starting the clock.
     
  7. Chris Smith

    Chris Smith Well-Known Member

    I was curious too, so I ran them both on speedtest.net.

    Firefox2:
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    IE 7:
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    Mine are really close, and while I wish my upload was closer to what i'm paying for, the downloads are both very close my Pipe's max.

    Max, maybe you have an Add-In/Extension in FF that is causing problems? Perhaps try disabling them and running the test again and seeing if that makes a difference?
     
  8. cjd

    cjd New Member

    More info

    I was wrong about the pipe size.

    I just tested Firefox on Linux and it gives me 75991 upload, 6264 download.

    It *could* be an add-on (Firebug comes to mind), I'll test that. It could also be Windows Firewall...
     
  9. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster

    Turn off your pr0n torrents. I know those really kill my connection.
     
  10. Max Yokell

    Max Yokell Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster

    Well I am glad that one of you is seeing something similar.

    I remember reading somewhere before about optimizing settings in Firefox for higher speed connections but I have never needed to until now. Someone had posted a bunch of tweaks on getting FF up to speed.

    Sounds like Chris D is running into the same thing in Windows or at least close to it.

    Max
     
  11. cjd

    cjd New Member

    Yup. I can't turn off firewall here at work to test that theory.

    Extensions made no difference.

    I *have* the speed tricks configured already.

    I just tried Safari and Opera in Windows: neither are as fast as IE (or as fast as Firefox under Linux) by about half. Still faster than Firefox.

    This should be a straight-up throughput test though, so http get on a single file.
     
  12. Max Yokell

    Max Yokell Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster


    What are those? and where/how do I turn them off or on for that matter?


    Max
     
  13. Michael

    Michael Junior Geek

    I believe he was joking that you are doing mass downloading and sharing of porn. 8)
     
  14. CJ

    CJ Well-Known Member Admin War Zone Member

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    Home PC Cox regular cable internet service (i.e. not their premium internet service)

    FF
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    IE 7
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  15. Shane

    Shane Active Member

    I tried 2 different places to connect 2 and got 2 vastly different results. Something is fishy.
     
  16. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster

    speakeazy

    Last Result: IE
    Download Speed: 3309 kbps (413.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 741 kbps (92.6 KB/sec transfer rate)


    Last Result: FF
    Download Speed: 2864 kbps (358 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 776 kbps (97 KB/sec transfer rate)


    speedtest.net

    FF
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    IE
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    3's and 9's eh?
     
  17. Max Yokell

    Max Yokell Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster

    See I can get he 700 KBPs range with FF, I get the 5 MBs range with IE which is what I am paying to get. My guess is that there is something in FF severely slowing the upload speed and slightly slowing the D/L speed as I am paying for a 20/5 MBs plan.


    Max
     
  18. cjd

    cjd New Member

    Max: do you have the default Windows Firewall enabled? I can't disable it here at work, but Firefox isn't slower for so many people, and I found Opera and Safari ALSO slower on my work system (on which I can not disable the firewall). I'm skeptical about Firefox being the "slowdown" problem for these tests.

    Regardless, I believe you are getting what you've paid for as far as speed, so no worries on that end.

    Also, if you want the speed-tweaks the easy way, get the "Fasterfox" extension. :)

    I'm surprised no-one is commenting on the speed numbers I posted. :p

    C
     
  19. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member War Zone Member Top Poster

    How are many so vastly different between 2 testing sites?
     
  20. cjd

    cjd New Member

    Are the locations the same you're testing to?

    You could run through a bum switch or router on the way to one site. Try some other cities to see if it's a route problem. Or even a tracert.

    C
     

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